Things I Know, Things I Don’t Know, and Things I Know I Don’t Know
OK, take your best shots. I gave you the straight line and you can only guess
at all the things that Mr. Bucknuts doesn’t know.
But as we talk about recruiting here in September (with 11 schollies already
committed to…), we need to get serious about our knowledge base. I need help
with all those things that I don’t know (I don’t need help with the things I
know I don’t know because…all right, this is getting a little too Zen, even
for me).
An easy example of each category:
Things I know: Andre Amos committed to Ohio State on August 25 (Duane
Long broke the story). That is the eleventh commitment this year and 12th
kid scheduled to report (don’t forget Aaron Pettrey, who is gray-shirting, we
think, for that class). Amos is a terrific looking receiver from Middletown who
could also pay defense. Welcome aboard, Andre!
Things I don’t know: It seems obvious that the Buckeyes need a fullback
for this recruiting class. Does anyone know who they are looking at?
Things that I know that I don’t know: There are always guys that the
staff is looking at that will be complete mysteries to us mere mortals. And –
as we have in the past – Bucknuts will take the blame for that.
Once you admit your problem, you are on the road to solving it, right? Or, as
it is said: “A captive can’t free himself”. So let’s look at our
recruiting outlook by position, and see what we know and…well, you
know!
Running Backs
What we know: The Bucks have no commitments yet for this class and
already lost one contender from the last class (Dennis Kennedy). With two
graduating seniors (Ross and Hall) and two true freshmen (Pittman and Haw), we
know the Buckeyes need one or two RB’s here.
What we don’t know: Will Maurice Wells come aboard? He is still
listing a top three of Georgia Tech, USC, and Ohio State. Are the Buckeyes
waiting to find out about Maurice before they offer Javon Ringer?
Whatever it is that we don’t know about Javon, we do know this: the kid
is a stud (300 rushing yards in his first game against a good team) and he would
look great in scarlet and gray.
What we know we don’t know: Will they recruit a fullback this year? We
talked to Matt Clapp and he went to Arizona. The other fullback prospects that
are possible include Brandon Long but he hasn’t been offered. Other
prospects to ponder on this RB list are Mikell Simpson, Jonathan Stewart,
Conredge Collins, and Alex Daniels. As to Stewart, only Duane Long
thinks that he is a possibility at this moment because the Buckeyes are just
beginning to talk with him. As to Daniels, this is an arbitrary position listing
(he could play any of four…) and he seems to be deciding between OSU and
Oklahoma. He wants Ohio State and his mother wants him out of town? Go figure…As
to Simpson (there’s a good name for a slashing running back, eh?), he is ready
to receive an OSU offer but none has been forthcoming, according to our
contacts. And as to Conredge, he says OSU is in the lead group along with
Michigan and the Florida schools (FWIW). Stewart is an interesting case as he
says Ohio State is a leader along with Cal, Wash State, and Oregon.
My guess is that we take either Maurice or Javon as our “small back” and
Stewart, Simpson and/or Daniels as the hammer. Nice possibilities to ponder.
Quarterbacks
What we know: They have a potentially hot one in Rob Schoenhoft. They
have two guys with three years left to play (Zwick and Smith) and one guy with
five years left (Boeckman), who could be the back-up next year.
What we don’t know: Will Bauserman ever come back? Will we care? Do the
Bucks have an interest in another Florida “athlete”, Carlton Jackson,
as a quarterback? What we hear is that Carlton is visiting for the Cincinnati
game and that could give some clarity. He is probably seen as an “athlete”,
however.
What we know we don’t know: But we assume. Next year, Ohio has two
terrific QB’s with loads of potential: Miles Schichter and Mike Hartline. To
space out the QB pipeline, the Bucks probably don’t need to take anyone
else this year.
Plus, Bauserman might come back…
Tight Ends
What we know: That Stephen Gowland is OSU's best shot at tight
end. That’s already more than I wanted to know…With Frost switching sides
and Irizarry switching schools (and Hoobler looking more like a linebacker),
this seems to be the perfect year to bring in a Super Stud at tight end. What we
do know about Gowland is that he has been offered by OSU, Wake Forest and Troy
State (?!). He wants to visit Columbus but he would really like to stay in the
south. It’s hard to get excited there…
What we don’t know: Is there anyone else out there? Richard Gordon was
a possibility; but he has been offered by all the Florida schools, Oklahoma
State and Nebraska – lists all of them as his favorites and might end up on
defense! There are also some middle-of-the-roaders like aforementioned Ohioans Brandon
Long and West Virginia's Derek Hardman. None of these names – with
the exception of Gordon – make my heart speed up.
What we know we don’t know: Are we going to take anyone here? Nicol and
Frost are first-year guys and Stan White can play a little. This could be a
mystery position like fullback.
Wide Receivers
What we know: We know the Bucks have two commitments from two of the top
four Ohio receivers: Brian Hartline and recently committed Andre Amos.
We know that the other two “top four” will probably go elsewhere as Mario
Manningham is headed off-course, north to Ann Arbor and Brian Robiske is
as yet unoffered by the Bucks. Some would say that the other top wideout in
Ohio, Trey Stross, should have been considered, but he is pledged now to
Iowa.
What we don’t know: Hartline and Amos can both be DB’s, as well.
Therefore, the Bucks might not be done recruiting at this position as some
pundits would have it. Who else are they looking at? That would be…
What we know we don’t know: Selwyn Lymon (says it’s between OSU,
Michigan and Purdue, probably…) and Eric Sledge (doesn’t
mention the Bucks and lists every school from Florida and all the Big Ten; plus,
he looks to be a safety in college) are still on the board. Lymon suggests that
he will visit the Buckeyes. Big names like Derrick Williams, however are
still fanciful, as we have no indication that he has a serious interest in our
Bucks.
Offensive Linemen
What we know: We know the Bucks have a fantastic early class in Top 100 Alex
Boone and Kevin Bemoll, along with Top 250 Jim Cordle. We
think we know that OSU could take as many as two more if they are great ones.
What we don’t know: Are there any more in Ohio that would be considered
“great ones”? The coaches want to see the top prospects play a few games
before they can decide. Names often bandied about include Robert Brewster and
Zach Hennis.
What we know we don’t know: Does Florida’s Ronnie Wilson really
have the Bucks in the lead? He’s a big’un and would be a capper to this
class. There are three other out-of-staters that any team would try to land: Dan
Doering (his three official visits are to be Iowa, Nebraska and Notre Dame),
Cory Zirbel (an official to Oklahoma, plus he likes Michigan and Miami ahead
of the Bucks), and Chris Barney (Miami leads with Oklahoma, OSU,
USC and NC State sharing the second spot).
Defensive Linemen
What we know: We have two great prospects in Todd Denlinger and Ryan
Williams. And we know the Bucks need more.
What we don’t know: Will Denlinger play inside? Probably. Will Williams
play outside? Probably. So who else should OSU chase since – typically – you
want two inside guys and two outside guys?
What we know we don’t know: The Buckeyes are absolutely loaded with
young great inside guys like Sian Cotton, Brandon Maupin and Nader Abdallah. We
don’t know that we need any more there. But outside could be a priority, so
look for a push for guys like Doug Worthington and Ray Henderson. Worthington
is a real shot and a real player; he has OSU “on top” right now and will
take officials to Columbus, Georgia, LSU and – probably – Vtech. Henderson
is off to see LSU and has OSU in his second tier along with eight other big-name
schools. Antwon Hight might be the best of the bunch but he could be a
few years away, grades-wise. And don’t completely discount Glenville’s Curtis
Smith. There is still also a likelihood of Walker Ashley coming
aboard; he was recently offered by Tennessee and UCLA but avers that his
favorite four are Ohio State, Penn State, USC and Minnesota.
Linebackers
What we know: Marcus Freeman is leading the new wave but the big name
here on the second line could be budding star, Chad Hoobler. To keep this
pipeline full, the Bucks need two more names in this class.
What we don’t know: Is Brian Cushing really interested? He is of
a caliber similar to the All-Americans we currently have roaming the middle.
Brian says he will visit Miami, USC and Virginia and that OSU is vying for one
of his final two visits with six other schools. Hmmm… And how about Rico
McCoy? He plans his visits after his senior season winds down and says one
of those visits will be to Columbus. Odds are - as of today – that the
decision comes down to OSU, Miami, Michigan and Syracuse.
What we know we don’t know: Fabulous fast athlete Freddie Lenix could
be a force here but he hasn’t been offered and might be a ‘tweener ‘tween
LB and safety. Other names we need to know more about include: Travis Beckum (we
are in the top four with the Vols, Seminoles and Hurricanes) and Nick
Harris (no news is bad news).
Defensive Backs
What we know: We know Ohio State is off to a great start with All-World Jamario
O’Neal and the solid Malcolm Jenkins, both early commitments.
What we don’t know: Will Jamario be a safety or a corner? Will Hartline
and Amos be corners or wide receivers?
What we know we don’t know: Thus, the Bucks will probably take one more
corner and one more safety. The safety everyone is assuming to be Adam
Myers-White, a Top 100 kid out of Hamilton. The other hot prospect that is
possible for the Buckeyes is Shawn Oatis. The corner de jour would be Top
20 Justin King. But Nyan Boateng might be on the “more possible”
list, although he is conspicuously quiet at this point.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE 22 AND YOU’VE GOT 12…
Mr. Bucknuts Final Ten Choices
I say the Buckeyes don’t need another QB (they love Boeckman, Schoenhoft is
coming and Hartline/Schichter are coming up). I say they need two running backs
and one of them might have to be a fullback. And even though they need a tight
end, the pickings are slim so we pass. They do take two more offensive linemen,
though, for the opposite reason.
We want one more D-lineman, two linebackers and two safeties. The fudge
factor is that they could take another receiver if one of the three convert to a
DB. How’s about:
1. Maurice Wells
2. Javon Ringer/Jonathan Stewart
3. Ronnie Wilson
4. Selwyn Lymon
5. Doug Worthington
6. Rico McCoy
7. Travis Beckum
8. Adam Myers-White
9. Freddie Lenix
10. One more offensive lineman
Deserving more consideration: Walker Ashley, Alex Daniels, Shawn Oatis and
Lawrence Wilson.
THE OFFER CHART
Here are the new rumored offerees
Elan Lewis
Aaron Brown
Brian Ellis
Terrance Taylor
Here are the guys that moved down
Callahan Bright
James McKinney
Here are the previous “rumors” that moved up
Conredge Collins
Courtney Harris
Here is the guy that committed
Andre Amos
Here’s the chart:
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OSU is amongst the leaders: |
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Name |
POS |
School/State |
Height |
Weight |
40 |
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Alaeze, Melvin |
DE |
Randallstown HS, Randallstown MD |
6’3” |
275 |
4.70 |
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Ashley, Walker |
DT |
Eden Prairie SHS, Eden Prairie MN |
6’5” |
285 |
4.90 |
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Cushing, Brian |
LB |
Bergen Catholic HS, Oradell NJ |
6’3” |
225 |
4.45 |
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Daniels, Alex |
ATH |
Marion Franklin HS, Columbus OH |
6’3” |
225 |
4.52 |
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Harris, Nick |
LB |
Alexandria SHS, Alexandria LA |
6’3” |
200 |
4.50 |
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Henderson, Ray |
DE |
Oak Creek HS, Oak Creek WI |
6’5” |
245 |
4.65 |
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Gowland, Stephen |
TE |
Parkview HS, Lilburn GA |
6’4” |
220 |
4.70 |
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Jackson, Carlton |
QB |
Blanche Ely HS, Pompano Beach FL |
6’3” |
190 |
4.50 |
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Lymon, Selwyn |
WR |
Paul Harding HS, Ft. Wayne IN |
6”4” |
190 |
4.40 |
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Mathis, Andre |
LB |
Cathedral Prep HS, Erie PA |
6’1” |
225 |
4.70 |
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McCoy, Rico |
LB |
St. John’s College, Washington DC |
6’2” |
210 |
4.55 |
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Myers-White, Adam |
S |
Hamilton HS, Hamilton OH |
6’4” |
200 |
4.50 |
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Oatis, Shawn |
S |
Chino HS, Chino CA |
6’0” |
205 |
4.60 |
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Sledge, Eric |
S |
Apopka HS, Apopka FL |
6’3” |
190 |
4.40 |
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Thomas, Carlos |
WR |
Banneker HS, College Park GA |
6’1” |
180 |
4.40 |
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Wells, Maurice |
RB |
Sandalwood HS, Jacksonville FL |
5’10” |
185 |
4.40 |
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Wilson, Lawrence |
DL |
Akron SVSM, Akron OH |
6’6” |
230 |
4.60 |
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Wilson, Ronnie |
OL |
Ely HS, Pompano Beach, FL |
6’4” |
330 |
5.40 |
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Worthington, Doug |
DL |
St. Francis HS, Athol Springs NY |
6’7” |
255 |
4.70 |
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OSU is just one of many |
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Name |
POS |
School/State |
Height |
Weight |
40 |
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Adkins, Spencer |
LB |
Naples HS, Naples FL |
6’1” |
225 |
4.50 |
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Beckum, Travis |
LB |
Oak Creek HS, Oak Creek WI |
6’5” |
220 |
4.50 |
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Boateng, Nyan |
DB |
Abraham Lincoln HS, Brooklyn NY |
6’3” |
190 |
4.45 |
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Bright, Callahan |
DL |
Hariton SHS, Bryn Mawr PA |
6’2” |
315 |
4.90 |
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Collins, Conredge |
RB |
Monsignor Pace HS, Miami FL |
5’11” |
220 |
4.60 |
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Doering, Dan |
OL |
Barrington HS, Barrington IL |
6’6” |
280 |
5.00 |
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Eaton, Byron |
ATH |
Lincoln HS, Dallas TX |
5’11” |
210 |
4.40 |
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Felder, Anthony |
LB |
O’Dea HS, Seattle WA |
6’3” |
225 |
4.55 |
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Gordon, Richard |
TE/DE |
Norland HS, Miami FL |
6’4” |
245 |
4.80 |
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Harris, Courtney |
DE |
Jupiter HS, Jupiter FL |
6’4” |
230 |
4.70 |
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Herring, Ray |
WR/S |
Holy Trinity Academy, Melbourne FL |
5’10” |
185 |
4.50 |
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Jackson, DeSean |
WR |
Polytechnic HS, Long Beach CA |
5’11” |
170 |
4.40 |
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King, Justin |
CB |
Gateway HS, Pittsburgh PA |
6’0” |
180 |
4.30 |
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McKinney, James |
DT |
Central HS, Louisville KY |
6’4” |
255 |
4.90 |
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Moffett, Neefy |
LB |
Palm Bay Sr. HS, Melbourne FL |
6’1” |
215 |
4.50 |
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Rouse, Fred |
WR |
Lincoln HS, Tallahassee FL |
6’4” |
185 |
4.40 |
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Rutland, Tray |
QB |
Tri-Cities HS, East Point GA |
6’2” |
180 |
4.60 |
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Simpson, Mikell |
RB |
Harrisburg HS, Harrisburg PA |
6’1” |
200 |
4.40 |
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Taylor, Terrance |
DT |
Muskegon HS, Muskegon MI |
6’1” |
285 |
4.80 |
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Weston, Kade |
DT |
Red Bank Reg. HS, Little Silver NJ |
6”6” |
310 |
5.00 |
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Williams, Derrick |
WR |
Eleanor Roosevelt HS, Greenbelt MD |
6’0” |
190 |
4.40 |
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OSU is rumored to have offered |
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Name |
POS |
School/State |
Height |
Weight |
40 |
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Barney, Chris |
OL |
Northwestern HS, Miami FL |
6’6” |
330 |
5.60 |
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Brown, Aaron |
WR |
Northeast HS, Zachary LA |
6’2” |
200 |
4.50 |
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Byrd, CJ |
WR |
North Augusta HS, N. Augusta SC |
6’3” |
190 |
4.50 |
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Davis, Mike |
RB |
Columbia HS, Columbia SC |
5’11” |
208 |
4.45 |
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Ellis, Brian |
TE |
Mainland HS, Daytona Beach FL |
6’3” |
235 |
4.60 |
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Jackson, RaShawn |
RB |
St. Peter’s Prep, Jersey City NJ |
6’2” |
250 |
4.55 |
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Lewis, Elan |
RB |
Phoebus HS, Hampton VA |
5’8” |
215 |
4.50 |
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Owens, Jeff |
DT |
Plantation HS, Plantation FL |
6’2” |
265 |
4.85 |
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Selmon, Paul |
OL |
Lee HS, Montgomery AL |
6’6” |
290 |
5.00 |
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Smalls, Sean |
DB |
Huguenot HS, Richmond VA |
6’1” |
180 |
4.50 |
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Stewart, Demitri |
LB |
Northeast HS, Oakland Park FL |
6’4” |
220 |
4.50 |
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Committed Somewhere |
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Name |
POS |
School/State |
Committed School |
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Amos, Andre |
WR |
Middletown High School, Middletown OH |
Ohio State |
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Bemoll, Kevin |
OL |
Mission Viejo HS, Mission Viejo CA |
Ohio State |
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Boone, Alex |
OL |
Lakewood St. Ed, Lakewood OH |
Ohio State |
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Cordle, Jim |
OL |
Lancaster HS, Lancaster OH |
Ohio State |
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Denlinger, Todd |
DL |
Troy HS, Troy OH |
Ohio State |
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Gwaltney, Jason |
RB |
N. Babylon HS, N. Babylon NY |
West Virginia |
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Hartline, Brian |
WR |
GlenOak HS, Canton OH |
Ohio State |
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Jenkins, Malcolm |
CB |
Piscataway HS, Piscataway NJ |
Ohio State |
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Manningham, Mario |
WR |
Warren Harding HS, Warren OH |
Michigan |
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Monroe, Eugene |
OL |
Plainfield HS, Plainfield NJ |
Virginia |
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O’Neal, Jamario |
DB |
Glenville HS, Cleveland OH |
Ohio State |
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Perrilloux, Ryan |
QB |
East St. John HS, Reserve LA |
Texas |
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Phillips, Randy |
DB |
Glades Central HS, Belle Glade FL |
Miami |
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Roche, Brian |
OL |
Don Bosco Prep HS, Ramsey NJ |
Rutgers |
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Roark, Craig |
OL |
Ada HS, Ada OK |
Nebraska |
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Robinson, Lamont |
LB |
Salem HS, Salem NJ |
Virginia |
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Sanchez, Mark |
QB |
Mission Viejo HS, Mission Viejo CA |
USC |
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Schoenhoft, Rob |
QB |
St. Xavier HS, Cincinnati OH |
Ohio State |
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Williams, Gerald |
DE |
Boyd Anderson Lauderdale Lakes FL |
Florida |
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Williams, Ryan |
DL |
Mission Viejo HS, Mission Viejo CA |
Ohio State |
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Wilson, Marcus |
WR |
Camden Catholic HS, Cherry Hill NJ |
Iowa |
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= New name or change in position on the
chart from last time.
THEN THERE’S THE (ALMOST) FAMOUS CHART
Changes in the chart:
Off the Chart
Brian Roche: He committed to Rutgers.
James McKinney: We’re not in his top 10…
Callahan Bright: Not in his top 30…
Elijah Hodge: No interest in the Buckeyes.
Nick Harris: Not enough interest in the Buckeyes.
New to the Chart
Lawrence Wilson: Tearing up a lot of charts, this big Buckeye
could become a collegiate Buckeye this year.
Shawn Oatis: California safety that is returning much of the Ohio
recruiting love.
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PLAYER POSITION |
NUMBER NEEDED |
COMMITMENTS |
NUMBER STILL NEEDED |
PLAYERS I
WANT |
GRADES SO FAR (BASED ON NEED) |
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TAILBACK |
2 |
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2 |
Javon Ringer, Maurice Wells,
Conredge Collins, Mikell Simpson, Alex Daniels |
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FULLBACK |
0 |
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0 |
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QUARTERBACK |
2 |
Rob Schoenhoft |
1 |
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B |
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TIGHT END |
0 |
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0 |
Richard Gordon, Stephen
Gowland |
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WIDE RECEIVER |
2 |
Brian Hartline, Andre Amos |
0 |
Derrick Williams, Selwyn Lymon, Carlos Thomas, |
B |
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OFFENSIVE LINEMEN |
5 |
Alex Boone, Jim Cordle, Kevin Bemoll |
2 |
Ronnie Wilson, Cory Zirbel, Dan Doering ,
Chris Barney |
A- |
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DEFENSIVE END |
2 |
Ryan Williams |
1 |
Antwon Hight,
Doug Worthington, Ray Henderson, Melvin Aleaze, Curtis
Smith, Lawrence Wilson |
B |
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DEFENSIVE TACKLE |
1 |
Todd Denlinger |
0 |
Walker Ashley, Kade Weston |
B |
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LINEBACKER |
2 |
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2 |
Brian Cushing, Rico McCoy, Travis Beckum |
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SAFETY |
2 |
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2 |
Adam Myers-White, Eric Sledge, Freddie Lenix, Shawn
Oatis |
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CORNERBACK |
2 |
Jamario O’Neal, Malcolm Jenkins |
0 |
Nyan Boateng, Justin King |
A- |
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KICKER/PUNTER |
1 |
Aaron Pettrey |
0 |
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TOTAL |
21 |
11 |
10 |
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Too early, still… |
LEGEND
Red Player:
He has already committed
Gray Player:
Gray shirt from 2004 that will be part of the 2005
class
Blue Player:
I absolutely want this kid!
Green Player:
Great potential; I might want him
Well, that’s it until, well…October. By that time, the Bucks
will be looking for their fourth straight win and we will still be salivating
over the recruiting opportunities. A couple more guys will probably commit
between now and then and a couple of new names will arrive that no one was
aware existed at all.
That’s the charm of recruiting…
The Buckeyes are off to a sensational start this year on the recruiting front with
one of the top 2-3 classes (at this point) in the nation. Can we keep the
momentum? Can we follow all the rumors? Maybe. Possibly.
Check back next month. And go Bucks!
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