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Mr. Bucknuts' Recruiting Report Card

This report is Mr. Bucknuts' unique attempt to coordinate and grade the recruiting process on a dynamic basis between now and the end of recruiting season for the Class of 2004. As players commit - or emerge on the scene - the report will change to reflect that. Your comments are welcome! The report is the opinion of Mr. Bucknuts and not OSU.  Send all broadsides to

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JUNE MR. BUCKNUTS RECRUITING REVIEW

There are so many subjects to cover in this early-June snapshot of Ohio State football recruiting. We all guess, of course, at Who Has Been Offered and even Why They Accepted. The coaches and the university are not allowed to comment on the recruiting process so it is somewhat fanciful to hear that so-and-so “confirmed” an offer or a commitment. Yes, we talk to the parents, the coaches and even the kids themselves. But for every crystal-clear conclusion, there are the recruitments with muddy interpretations. Kids that thought they were offered (think Kenyon Buford and Frank Morton). Kids who assume they accepted and assume they will be Buckeyes (think DaJuan Morgan and Miles Williams). And there are those kids that commit to one school for a long time, de-commit in the end and mess up the team’s recruiting strategy completely (think Richard Washington).

Hey – there are kids who never figure out what they want to do (Buster Davis) or kids that get schollies to one school but end up walking on to another (Steve Fender). Or kids that take scholarships to a school, play for a while and then transfer back to the school that didn’t recruit them the first time around – even if it means they have to walk on (John Kerr and Ryan Franzinger). Finally, there are the kids that are completely bogus, making up information and “news” and just simply messing with the process – sort of like those miscreants that create and spread computer viruses. Remember the celebrated case of Travis Tolbert?

So, with all that uncertainty and the juggling of variables, you can just come back to old reliable Mr. Bucknuts. Frequently wrong but seldom in doubt. Castigated but with cast iron skin. And here’s where I tell you everything I know up to, this point in time (insert joke here: ).

My focus in today’s summary will be the scholarship count, defending the Ohio borders, the offers and updates on the best of the rest. We also always put in a little section for those players that seem to be in transition vis a vis their recruitment by the Buckeyes, as well.

And, most importantly, there are the players that really screw up the recruiting process. Those are the ones that actually commit! Yes, they take themselves off the conjecture circuit, lower their rating from the national services (that rely on the confusion and uncertainty for their livelihoods) and just make the whole darn thing really anti-climatic. Plus, kids commit that weren’t even being followed and weren’t even rumored to have offers.

Like Ryan Williams.

Just one day after Bucknuts got a whiff that Luke Fickell was going to offer Ryan, the deal was done. Ryan’s father confirmed it to us. His coach confirmed it. And, finally, they called Coach Tressel to tell him the good news. Ryan is a California kid hopefully more along the productivity lines of Michael Wiley and even Ken-Yon Rambo (than kids like JaJa Riley and Jack Tucker…) who spent some early years in Ohio (Washington Court House) listening to his grandpa tout the virtues of playing in Ohio Stadium. A wise man, indeed. The grandson is more a listener than a talker. He’s more a do-er than either. And now he’s going to be a Buckeye.

A defensive end that should grow into an eventual 280-pound body, Those Who Know say he has the fastest first step they have seen in years. A good kid, a hard worker, and a team guy, this is great get for our Bucks. Plus, you can always dream that he will influence his teammate, Mark Sanchez, one of the hottest QB candidates in the country and a guy OSU recently offered. Another plus is that the same team harbors an offensive lineman we harbor thoughts about.

And even though Ryan is not much of a talker, we have him scheduled to join us on the Bucknuts Radio Hour for our traditional panoply of insensitive and barely articulate questioning. So, stay tuned…

As for the other subjects I threatened to address:

Scholarship Count

We have maintained all along that there would be 19 scholarships available for the Class of 2005. You can go back into the archives to examine the reasoning. But, if you’ve gotten this far, you might as well just accept that speculative number. But now, of course, it’s all changing.

If we also accept the plausible outcome that both Ira Guilford and Louis Irizarry have seen he last of their time in scarlet and gray uniforms, then we can boost that schollie count by two more – to 21. I choose to do so. And I choose to suggest that the Bucks will use these “additional” scholarships on a fourth offensive lineman and a tight end. The lineman projection is based upon the observation that OSU already has two excellent kids in the fold (Boone and Cordle), yet they are recruiting and offering a whole bunch of out-of-state kids nonetheless. Far too many to pick just one. In fact, far too many from New Jersey to just pick just one! The tight end newbie is due to the sad fact that Irizarry was an essential ingredient at that position and now we appear to be one short. We might not get another like Louis (there’s ying and there’s yang in that thought), but we need to get another TE to keep the pipeline functioning. Check out the chart on the bottom of this summary to see the new numbers and how they might play out.

Defending the Ohio Border

We don’t worry so much about anyone sneaking in from Indiana, Kentucky or West Virginia as we do someone flying in on a jet from the coast or peddling propaganda from up north. Two years ago, we lost Prescott Burgess and Shawn Crable to Michigan and Brady Quinn to Notre Dame. Last year, we lost Fred Davis to USC and Ray Williams to…well, that’s another story. This year, we’ve lost Mario Manningham to the evil empire due north. But that’s still just five in the past three years, if we can hold the line right there. Let’s take a look…

The top two players in Ohio are also the two that will be on everybody’s Top 100 list: Jamario O’Neal and Alex Boone. They are both early commitments to the Buckeyes already. The consensus #3, #4, and #5 Ohio kids will probably be Jim Cordle, Adam Myers-White and Todd Denlinger. Cordle is another early Buckeye commitment, AM-W told me in a radio interview that his odds of being a Buckeye are “at least 95%”, and Todd Denlinger will most likely commit in the next week. These aren’t the proverbial “locks”, I guess, but you have to like our chances.

Of the “bottom five”, we’ve already lost Manningham which leaves (and we are speculating here on who the other four might be) Freddie Lenix, Alex Daniels, Brandon Harrison/Javon Ringer and Brian Hartline. Lenix doesn’t have an offer yet, but he will. And when he does, Mr. B here says he will be a Buck. Daniels has a verbal offer that will be written at camp time and he will gratefully accept and be a great Buckeye. Both CJ products would be Buckeyes if we pull the trigger in time and Hartline has already expressed that opinion.

The borders seem relatively safe for at least another season…

Let’s talk offers

If you really want to speculate in recruiting, you have to speculate on offers. There are verbals out there that maybe kinda probably don’t count. There are verbals that do. And there are those “self-reported” offers that drive us all crazy ‘cause we have to count them just ‘cause the kid says he’s got one!

According to my official unofficial count, there have been 43 offers made to the kids that will make up the next recruiting class. Six have accepted (Bauserman, Pettrey, O’Neal, Boone, Cordle and Williams) and two have chosen to go elsewhere (the aforementioned M&M and Jason Gwaltney, who has formally committed to West Virginia). That leaves about 35 offers outstanding for the 15 remaining spots. And there will probably be 20-25 more offers made before all is said and done! Go ahead – try the math at home…

Therefore, I submit my chart of the guys I think have been offered that haven’t committed anywhere. I divided them into three groups: the ones we have the best shot at getting, the ones we don’t, and offers that are only rumors (meaning I am just guessing along with everyone else). Here’s the neat new chart:

Mr. Bucknuts Offer Sheet

- Uncommitted Players -

OSU is amongst the leaders:
Name	POS	School/State	Height	Weight	40
Aleaze, Melvin	DE	Randallstown HS, Randallstown, MD	6’3”	275	4.70
Ashley, Walker	DT	Eden Prairie SHS, Eden Prairie, MN	6’5”	285	4.90
Bright, Callahan	DL	Harriton SHS, Bryn Mawr, PA	6’2”	315	4.90
Cushing, Brian	LB	Bergen Catholic HS, Oradell NJ	6’3”	225	4.45
Daniels, Alex	ATH	Marion Franklin HS, Columbus, OH	6’3”	225	4.52
Denlinger, Todd	DT	Troy HS, Troy, OH	6’3”	280	4.80
Harris, Nick	LB	Alexandria SHS, Alexandria, LA	6’3”	200	4.50
Henderson, Ray	DE	Oak Creek HS, Oak Creek, WI	6’5”	245	4.65
Gowland, Stephen	TE	Parkview HS, Lilburn GA	6’4”	220	4.7
Lymon, Selwyn	WR	Homestead Senior HS, Ft. Wayne, IN	6”4”	190	4.40
McCoy, Rico	LB	St. John’s College, Washington, DC	6’2”	210	4.55
McKinney, James	DT	Central HS, Louisville, KY	6’4”	255	4.90
Myers-White, Adam	S	Hamilton HS, Hamilton, OH	6’4”	200	4.50
Sledge, Eric	S	Apopka HS, Apopka, FL	6’3”	190	4.40
Thomas, Carlos	WR	College Park HS, GA	6’1”	180	4.40
Wells, Maurice	RB	Sandalwood HS, Jacksonville, FL	5’10”	185	4.40
Worthington, Doug	DL	St. Francis HS, Athol Springs, NY	6’7”	255	4.70

OSU is just one of many
Name	POS	School/State	Height	Weight	40
Adkins, Spencer	LB	Naples HS, Naples FL	6’1”	225	4.50
Beckum, Travis	LB	Oak Creek HS, Oak Creek, WI	6’5”	220	4.50
Eaton, Byron	ATH	Lincoln HS, Dallas, TX	5’11”	210	4.40
King, Justin	CB	Gateway HS, Pittsburgh, PA	6’0”	180	4.30
Monroe, Eugene	OL	Plainfield HS, Plainfield, NJ	6’7”	320	5.25
Oatis, Shawn	S	Chino HS, Chino, CA	6’0”	205	4.60
Perrilloux, Ryan	QB	East St. John HS, Reserve, LA	6’3”	200	4.5
Roark, Craig	OL	Ada HS, Ada, OK	6’3”	290	5.00
Roche, Brian	OL	Don Bosco Prep HS, Ramsey, NJ	6”5”	285	5.00
Rouse, Fred	WR	Lincoln HS, Tallahassee, FL	6’4”	185	4.40
Rutland, Tray	QB	Tri-Cities HS, East Point, GA	6’2”	180	4.60
Sanchez, Mark	QB	Mission Viejo HS, Mission Viejo CA	6’2”	215	4.85
Weston, Kade	DT	Red Bank HS, NJ	6”6”	310	5.00
Williams, Derrick	WR	Eleanor Roosevelt HS, Greenbelt, MD	6’0”	190	4.40

OSU is rumored to have offered
Name	POS	School/State	Height	Weight	40
Bemoll, Kevin	OL	Mission Viejo HS, Mission Viejo CA	6’5”	295	5.10
Boateng, Nyan	DB	Abraham Lincoln HS, Brooklyn, NY	6”3”	190	4.45
Byrd, CJ	WR	North Augusta HS, N. Augusta, SC	6’3”	190	4.50
Davis, Mike	RB	Columbia HS, Columbia, SC	5’11”	208	4.45
Doering, Dan	OL	Barrington HS, Barrington, IL	6’6”	280	5.00
Selmon, Paul	OL	Lee HS, Montgomery, AL	6’6”	290	5.00
Simpson, Mikell	RB	Harrisburg HS, Harrisburg, PA	6’1”	200	4.40

NEW OFFERS

Alex Daniels: When is an offer not an offer? When it is verbally communicated by Luke Fickell and not written down. That’s what Alex says is the deal with OSU. He seems confident that he will get a written version at the OSU camp in late June. He has a ton of other offers from illustrious names like Oklahoma.

Eric Sledge: Great name for a hard-hitting football player, eh? Eric is 6’3” and 190 with the ubiquitous 4.4 forty. His coach says he has 15 offers including OSU, Michigan, MSU, Florida and Miami but Eric says, “Ohio State is my top one”.

Mikell Simpson: No relation to Ohio’s Mister Simpson, this large PA running back has the size and speed to make him an exciting prospect. Rumors are that we have offered and that’s where we’ll leave it…

Spencer Adkins: A linebacker that might grow into a DE, Spencer is 6’1” and 225 and a sub-4.5 guy, hailing from Naples, FL. He lists OSU on his offer sheet along with Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Miami and Oklahoma. You remember Mr. B’s theory about big-namers from the south getting offers from the south, now don’t you?

Brian Cushing: He has more offers than the only girl at a stag party. He is official on the Buckeye list to go along with new offers like Wisconsin and the jet-setters from USC. He says he wants to visit USC, Stanford, Miami, Florida State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Ohio State, Penn State and BC this summer. From the Buckeyes’ perspective, it’s a great time to visit those southern schools!

Todd Denlinger: As of this writing, Todd has the offer in hand. This seems to be more of a “when” rather than an “if” for a commitment.

Nick Harris: A small linebacker or big safety from Alexandria, Louisiana; Nick is 6’3” 200 pounds with a 4.5 forty. He lists offers from Arizona State, Michigan, OSU and Texas A&M.

Eugene Monroe: Another big New Jersey offensive lineman that might be the most sought-after player in the state. Eugene has generated offers from USC, Virginia, Maryland, Miami and Nebraska, as well.

Shawn Oatis: Shawn is from Chico CA. he’s 6’0” and 205 and plays safety and tailback. He is reporting offers from UCLA, Washington, the Oregon schools, the Arizona schools and the Buckeyes.

Byron Eaton: Byron told reporters that he had been offered by the Buckeyes along with Oklahoma, Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Illinois. Byron is officially an “athlete” who has played some QB. He is listed as 5’11” and 210 pounds and has as big a rep as a basketball player as he does on the gridiron.

Tray Rutland: Tray is a Georgia QB who has the Georgia schools way at the top of his list. They have both offered. He had stand-out quarterback camps and listed a dozen big schools that have extended offers in addition to OSU.

Paul Selmon: An Alabama offensive lineman that has generated very little buzz and only one offer to date. An enigma, but maybe not for much longer.

Callahan Bright: Big and bright, Callahan is 6’2” and 315 ponds and can motor as a DE with a 4.9 40 time. He wrestles, puts and shot and plays lacrosse (that’s quite a visual…). Bright hails from Pennsylvania and has garnered offers from all the big Florida schools plus LSU, Nebraska, Texas A&M and the Buckeyes.

Melvin Alaeze: A DE from Maryland, Melvin got an offer from the Buckeyes and Virginia Tech on the same day. He’s being recruited by Luke Fickell (who, like Zorro, seems to be everywhere…) and says he plans – right now – to visit Maryland, Miami, Virginia Tech and Ohio State.

Kade Weston: A 6’6” 300+ pounder from New Jersey, Weston is a defensive tackle that lists offers from Florida, Florida State and Ohio State.

Nyan Boateng: It’s hard to make up a name like that or his claims that he has 25 offers including OSU, Miami, and USC. He is a 6’2” WR/DB candidate that is from Joisey.

Brian Roche: Roche seemed like a lock for Virginia but then something went wrong. Ohio State is in the hunt for this offensive lineman from New Jersey. He’s also been offered by most of the Big Ten, a majority of the Pac 10 and pretty much everyone else.

Selwyn Lymon: He is a good enough athlete to be able to get scholarships in track, basketball or football. Hailing from Fort Wayne IN, Selwyn has offers from the Bucks, Michigan, Purdue and Penn State just in his Big Ten bushel. He’s big, very fast and probably the 3! Footballer in Indiana. I know, I know…

Raymond Henderson: The athletic DE, Henderson has OSU on a list that also includes Iowa, Notre dame, Miami, LSU and Penn State amongst his leaders that have offered. As a teammate of LB Travis Beckum, they could be doing some traveling together.

Carlos Thomas: A Georgia wide receiver that blew everyone away at the Nike camp, Carlos has the Buckeyes in the top group along with Florida, Georgia, Clemson and Oklahoma. He likes the fact that OSU has told him that they would be interested in Carlos playing both ways (WR/DB).

Anthony Felder: A Washington (state) linebacker that has seven offers so far suggests that he has a verbal offer from the Buckeyes.

Stephen Gowland: A Georgia tight end that got his first offer from Troy State and his second from Ohio State (!). This has suddenly become a position of need and Gowland goes from nowhere to the top of the class.

Kevin Bemoll: The third in the holy football trinity from Mission Viejo, this 300-pound O-lineman is rumored to have an offer from Ohio State along with offers Florida, LSU, Arizona and Oklahoma. His coach said he could be better than USC star Drew Radovich, who played there two years ago.

THE LIST IN TRANSITION

Off The List

Ryan Perrilloux: OK, I kept him on my “Dream Team” out of stubbornness and the fact that we don’t have an alternative to the peripatetic Bauserman. But the other fact is…he’s got 65+ offers and doesn’t mention us in the top 30! I guess that’s why they call it a “dream” team…

Gene Delle Donne: We never really knew much about this big QB gunslinger. And while all the questions were still out there, Gene committed on his first visit – to Duke.

Fred Rouse: The Bauserman connection comes into play here, too, as Fast Fred was a teammate of Joe’s. But the Perrilloux comparison is more apt: Fred has dozens of offers and OSU isn’t in the top 50%. The dream is over.

Justin King: See Perrilloux and Rouse…This PA speedster can go anywhere he wants. One of those places might be Michigan. It’s not going to be Columbus.

Ekom Udofia: He mentioned OSU early on but we never offered and we never heard him mention us again. That’s enough…

Jeffrey Owens: An early mention for this FL DT, but he no longer mentions us and we haven’t offered him.

Ray Herring: Another Florida guy that hasn’t gotten an OSU offer and doesn’t seem to fit the picture anymore.

Rahmir Cottman: No news. No further relevance.

On The List

Mikell Simpson: We have him “listed” as a running back but he might come into play as a DB. One to watch and we will keep you updated.

Carlos Thomas: A new offer from the Buckeyes and the interest seems to be mutual.

Eugene Monroe: This big O-lineman fills a position of need and has a Buckeye offer to prove it.

Eric Sledge: Eric says we lead for this safety candidate and we recently offered so the possibilities are there.

Nyan Boateng: An offer was extended and Nyan might be our highest rated CB, at this point.

Bryan Robiskie: He has interest from all over. Depending on offers to out-of-state dazzlers and the eventual decision about Brian Hartline, this Bryan could be the one.

BJ Travers: A tackling machine LB with great size that might be a step slow. Duane Long compared him to Mike Kudla and that’s certainly not all bad. 

Melvin Aleaze: A big possibility at DE, this Maryland candidate recently received a buckeye offer.

Callahan Bright: Both an offer and an interest elevates Callahan to the top of this class.

Nick Harris: He says he likes the Buckeyes and we like him enough to extend an offer.

Ray Henderson: The best player in Wisconsin would look good in Columbus.

Selwyn Lymon: An unusual athlete that is probably Indiana’s top footballer. Has an offer from OSU, now…

Stephen Gowland: The only tight end on the list, this camp stand-out is a new addition.

With the necessary archiving now comfortably behind us, let’s get to our favorite part of recruiting: the unvarnished speculation!

In order to appear more credible, I have compiled all my guesswork and fantasies into a couple of nifty charts. The first one shows (this month’s) preferences as to how I would like to see the Buckeyes fill out their 21-man class for 2005. The second chart shows a “more reasonable” approach to what might happen given the information we currently possess. No one is right or wrong here as the circumstances are in a constant state of flux. But – being as competitive as the next guy – I would rather be right-er than wrong-er.

We’ll see how it works out…

The Dream Team

- The Best of All (Realistic) Possibilities -

Pos	Player	Height	Weight	40	State
RB	Maurice Wells	5’10”	185	4.40	FL
RB	Mikell Simpson	6’1”	200	4.40	PA
QB	Joe Bauserman * Ryan Perrilloux	6’2” 6’3”	215 200	4.70 4.50	FL LA
TE	Stephen Gowland	6’6”	220	4.70	GA
WR	Derrick Williams	6’0”	190	4.40	MD
WR	Carlos Thomas	6’1”	180	4.40	GA
OL	Alex Boone *	6’8”	280	5.00	OH
OL	Jim Cordle *	6’5”	265	5.00	OH
OL	Brian Roche Eugene Monroe	6’5” 6’7”	285 320	5.00 5.25	NJ NJ
DE	Ryan Williams *	6’5”	230	4.70	CA
DE	Todd Denlinger	6’3’	280	4.80	OH
DT	Doug Worthington	6’7”	255	4.70	NY
DT	James McKinney	6’4”	255	4.90	KY
LB	Brian Cushing	6’3”	225	4.45	NJ
LB	Rico McCoy	6’2”	210	4.55	DC
S	Adam Myers-White	6’4”	200	4.50	OH
S	Freddie Lenix Eric Sledge	6’0” 6’3”	195 190	4.45 4.40	OH FL
CB	Jamario O’Neal *	6’1’	205	4.40	OH
CB	Nyan Boateng	6’3”	190	4.45	NY
K	Aaron Pettrey	6’2’	180	4.70	KY

The More Probable Team

- The Best of the Most Interested -

Pos	Player	Height	Weight	40	State
RB	Javon Ringer	5’10”	205	4.40	OH
RB	Alex Daniels	6’3”	225	4.52	OH
QB	Joe Bauserman *	6’2’	215	4.70	FL
TE	Jim Ramella	6’3”	235	4.75	OH
WR	Brian Hartline	6’3”	175	4.40	OH
WR	Brian Robiskie	6’4”	190	4.50	OH
OL	Alex Boone *	6’8”	280	5.00	OH
OL	Jim Cordle *	6’5”	265	5.00	OH
OL	Zach Hennis	6’8”	290	5.20	OH
DE	Ryan Williams *	6’5”	230	4.80	CA
DE	Todd Denlinger	6’3”	280	4.80	OH
DT	Walker Ashley	6’5”	285	4.90	MN
DT	Antwon Hight	6’4”	290	4.85	OH
LB	Curtis Smith	6’2”	235	4.60	OH
LB	BJ Travers	6’1”	240	4.75	OH
S	Adam Myers-White	6’4”	200	4.50	OH
S	Freddie Lenix	6’0”	195	4.45	OH
CB	Jamario O’Neal	6’1”	205	4.40	OH
CB	Brandon Harrison	5’10”	190	4.30	OH
K	Aaron Pettrey	6’2”	180	4.70	KY

Finally, we can look at the overall grid as to how I place our progress and positioning. Don’t forget that we will know tons more once the OSU camp ends in late June. Questions will be answered and new questions will be forged. Will Brandon Harrison show up at camp or simply show up the Buckeyes? Will Todd Denlinger commit by then? (I say by the end of this week…). Who will get offered at camp? (I say Hartline and Daniels). Who amongst the current offer-ees will commit at camp? (I say Adam Myers-White).

And if what I say actually comes true (calculate those odds…), then OSU will have as many as 10 commitments in the fold by July. That’s a heck of a start. And that’s a heck of a class.

Let’s take a look:

PLAYER POSITION	NUMBER NEEDED	COMMITMENTS	NUMBER STILL NEEDED	PLAYERS I WANT	GRADES SO FAR (BASED ON NEED)
TAILBACK	2		2	Javon Ringer, Maurice Wells, Tyrell Sutton, Alex Daniels, Mikell Simpson
FULLBACK	0		0
QUARTERBACK	2	Joe Bauserman	1	Bill Stull, Rob Schoenhoft	B
TIGHT END	1		1	Stephen Gowland
WIDE RECEIVER	2		2	Brian Hartline, Derrick Williams, Selwyn Lymon, Carlos Thomas, Bryan Robiskie
OFFENSIVE LINEMAN	4	Alex Boone, Jim Cordle	2	Craig Roark, Brian Roche, Eugene Monroe	B+
DEFENSIVE END	2	Ryan Williams	1	Antwon Hight, Doug Worthington, Ray Henderson, Melvin Aleaze, Curtis Smith	B
DEFENSIVE TACKLE	1		1	James McKinney,Todd Denlinger, Joe Akers, Walker Ashley, Terrance Taylor, Callahan Bright
LINEBACKER	2		2	Freddie Lenix, Elijah Hodge, Brian Cushing, Nick Harris, Rico McCoy, Travis Beckum, BJ Travers
SAFETY	2		2	Adam Myers-White, Eric Sledge, Jayson White
CORNERBACK	2	Jamario O’Neal	1	Brandon Harrison, Nyan Boateng, Ryan Brinson	B+
KICKER/PUNTER	1	Aaron Pettrey	0
TOTAL	21	6	15		Too early…

LEGEND

Red Player: He has already committed

Gray Player: Gray shirt from 2004 that will be part of the 2005 class

Blue Player: I absolutely want this kid!

Green Player: Great potential; we might want him